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there is the iconic picture of kennedy and nixon in 1960 when nixon went to visit the preelect. more common is what happened with franklin roosevelt who is sitting in the car with herbert hoover. he won't speak to roosevelt. roosevelt points up at the steel on the commerce department building and says, isn't that a remarkable superstructure. hoover keeps glouerring and roosevelt decides he will wave at the crowds and the crowds are cheering. what we are going to see tomorrow is more civility than you sometimes see after these elections. >> the president has met with ceos, the fraternal order that mitt romney subscribes to. now, he is going to meet the guy they wanted in the oval office instead of the president. it is really a collection of ideas on the part of the president right here. do you think he would take any ideas from these folks that see the world differently economically than he does. >> i think he does have a remarkable capacity to listen to other people, to hear their points of view, to take them on board and to see what he thinks. on the fundamental issues of this
there is the iconic picture of kennedy and nixon in 1960 when nixon went to visit the preelect. more common is what happened with franklin roosevelt who is sitting in the car with herbert hoover. he won't speak to roosevelt. roosevelt points up at the steel on the commerce department building and says, isn't that a remarkable superstructure. hoover keeps glouerring and roosevelt decides he will wave at the crowds and the crowds are cheering. what we are going to see tomorrow is more civility...
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and didn't want to see his face. >> reporter: richard nixon met hubert humphrey after beating him in 1968 and offered him the job of u.n. ambassador, which he declined. bill clinton dropped in to see george h.w. bush after winning the 1992 election, and you would have thought that they had always been the best of friends. >> very, very friendly and very helpful. >> reporter: one topic that never came up in today's meeting, the campaign. no wonder they had such a good time. but things don't always go that well. george w. bush's meeting with al gore in 2000 was notable only for its brevity. >> i think in general, they're very awkward, but that photo op tells the world, really, that america's back, operating as one united country. >> reporter: now, the white house won't say whether the president will ask romney's help on any particular issue, as he suggested he might on election night. and we won't know anything about the meeting except what they tell us, because the two men will be having lunch alone and there won't be a chance to ask because there's no press coverage. charlie, norah?
and didn't want to see his face. >> reporter: richard nixon met hubert humphrey after beating him in 1968 and offered him the job of u.n. ambassador, which he declined. bill clinton dropped in to see george h.w. bush after winning the 1992 election, and you would have thought that they had always been the best of friends. >> very, very friendly and very helpful. >> reporter: one topic that never came up in today's meeting, the campaign. no wonder they had such a good time. but...
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one of the business mistake was working in the cabinet for president nixon. i am personally kind of disappointed that bee are talking about tax rates for the rich. >> steve: campaign. >> brian: what about the middle class people standing in the back drop as they need a break and the president urging for something to be done yesterday and there is no scheduled meetings with john boehner. >> gretchen: it is annoying to see just a campaign. how many people are tired of a campaign speech. why not come to the table and figure it out. i don't understand it. >> steve: at this point, both sides know what they will give up. what their concessions will be. they don't want to go first. we are 33 days away from the official fiscal cliff and sailing off of it . in the washington post they describe a sense much gloom descending over the capitol, bowles meet and he sees one and three chance of an agreement before january. but mr. bowles had met with the president the day before and president had flexibility about that higher tax rate. he wants 39.6 percent. maybe he would t
one of the business mistake was working in the cabinet for president nixon. i am personally kind of disappointed that bee are talking about tax rates for the rich. >> steve: campaign. >> brian: what about the middle class people standing in the back drop as they need a break and the president urging for something to be done yesterday and there is no scheduled meetings with john boehner. >> gretchen: it is annoying to see just a campaign. how many people are tired of a campaign...
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nixon defended a he was wrong or can't either but so is right but tom nobody was paying ninety percent for real because there's because what happens is the democrats when they had three million dollars a quick take on audio but everybody did their businesses so that they could pay their employees of these away democrats raise the rates so that they can sell deductions that's how the game is played that is well that's how they always corazon republicans want to lower the rates that so you can't sell deductions if the rates are low the reality though is that during that period of time when the top tax rate topping them tax rate was ninety one seventy four percent from from one hundred thirty five one hundred thirty three nine hundred thirty three ok no until until the eisenhower here in the regular mr ok during that period of time you had you had c.e.o.'s who were not living in mansions they were you know and only one private well you had some people who were having rich you didn't have this landed gentry you were writing history of the middle child history the simple fact the three midd
nixon defended a he was wrong or can't either but so is right but tom nobody was paying ninety percent for real because there's because what happens is the democrats when they had three million dollars a quick take on audio but everybody did their businesses so that they could pay their employees of these away democrats raise the rates so that they can sell deductions that's how the game is played that is well that's how they always corazon republicans want to lower the rates that so you can't...
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when nixon's wife died he complained that bill clinton, quote, came to me for advice to save his bottom and couldn't even send a cabinet member to pat's funeral. these are relationships forged around rivalries. i think it's impossible to expect, especially these two, to move forward and have a lunch. it's weird. >> yeah. they seem to really actually have total contempt and disdain for one another. which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect for mccain. i will say your intro, jonathan, about costco, i was thinking i love the joe biden image at costco. if the two guys, mitt romney and the president, were like wandering through costco together, getting samples, that would be a beautiful image. >> that's not weird, but sitting down at lunch is weird? >> one thing i feel like they might actually have in common, i feel like they both might like costco. we'll have to speculate on that. the thing is for me, not only is there no substance here, but even the symbolism of it, what does it really matter? nobody -- mitt romney doesn't have a constitue
when nixon's wife died he complained that bill clinton, quote, came to me for advice to save his bottom and couldn't even send a cabinet member to pat's funeral. these are relationships forged around rivalries. i think it's impossible to expect, especially these two, to move forward and have a lunch. it's weird. >> yeah. they seem to really actually have total contempt and disdain for one another. which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect...
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you've got moments, richard nixon offered an olive branch to the bambassador of the u.n. until mitt romney was the ex-president, an exclusive president's club but i don't see a blue ribbon commission of mitt romney heading right now and i don't see romney teaming up with due kdukakis and doing a report. world war ii vets had a a lot of love and respect on capitol hill. >> the interesting thing is, there have been relationships that didn't get too functional but carter got along with jerry ford very well. george w.'s father, george senior got along with clinton. called him practically a son. >> you can't imagine that happening with obama and romney. >> they don't like each other. we saw that in the debate. >> why do people -- you covered the campaign. this is not partisan. it's just an objects vague. why does everybody who runs against romney hate him? the rest of them, they walk off the debate platforms and hate the guy. >> i think it's the issue of a core and having a political core and consistent belief and obama likes to have a legal argument that fits together and rom
you've got moments, richard nixon offered an olive branch to the bambassador of the u.n. until mitt romney was the ex-president, an exclusive president's club but i don't see a blue ribbon commission of mitt romney heading right now and i don't see romney teaming up with due kdukakis and doing a report. world war ii vets had a a lot of love and respect on capitol hill. >> the interesting thing is, there have been relationships that didn't get too functional but carter got along with jerry...
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yum up 835% since nixon to seven, gap stores, and craft up 450%. you can argue she can go out and say i am marketable, look at what happens long-term when companies use me so maybe her career is not over. lori: you should be her agent. she needs a better one. charles: her last one was proactive. this trivia question, where was she born? lori: in long island? i just absorb this information. charles: she was born in the bronx. 1986. i was born in manhattan. lori: learn something new about you everyday. melissa: we have to get together more often. we will work on yours next. charles payne, thank you so much. lori: learn more about knight capital. charlie gasparino has the latest on a story he wrote. melissa: the city of detroit careening toward bankruptcy, but that one way to save the city actually be dissolving it? take a look at how the dollar is faring heading out to break against other major currencies around the world. we will be right back. and waiting in line. i don't have to leave my desk and get up and go to the post office anymore. [ male an
yum up 835% since nixon to seven, gap stores, and craft up 450%. you can argue she can go out and say i am marketable, look at what happens long-term when companies use me so maybe her career is not over. lori: you should be her agent. she needs a better one. charles: her last one was proactive. this trivia question, where was she born? lori: in long island? i just absorb this information. charles: she was born in the bronx. 1986. i was born in manhattan. lori: learn something new about you...
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. >> we did see nixon on the list and on the rise. >> there's another reason for nixon, there's a skateboarding and snowboarding culture. there's a brand there and the young people like that. >> but the current presidential candidate's names? >> mitt, barack, all down. paul and joe too. >> paul and joe, too. nobody was inspired by those names. >> it's always kind of fascinating. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> now here's matt. >>> thanks very much. paul rudd is keeping himself awfully busy this holiday season. he's got a new movie coming out and he's also returned to broadway in the play "the grace." he portrays a guy named steve a guy who wants to open a chain of gospel-themed hotels but gets involved in a real estate scam. welcome back. >> thank you. >> you've got a movie coming out, we know that. you could be making movie after movie after movie, why did you decide this was a time to get back to broadway? >> well, it had been several years since i'd done a play. and i like doing them. and i liked the play when i read it and it just kind of worked out. i wanted to do it. >>
. >> we did see nixon on the list and on the rise. >> there's another reason for nixon, there's a skateboarding and snowboarding culture. there's a brand there and the young people like that. >> but the current presidential candidate's names? >> mitt, barack, all down. paul and joe too. >> paul and joe, too. nobody was inspired by those names. >> it's always kind of fascinating. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> now here's matt....
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the real tradition of this is started in 1960 with kennedy meeting nixon in florida, and since then it's pretty much pro forma. what is 50-50 is whether a friendship gets developed out of this kind of lunch. >> this is the kind of thing that we take for granted in the united states. you really have to think about it, when there is no peaceful transition. >> well, you know, i recently wrote about the kennedy assassination, and it's amazing. here our president was killed in dallas in 1963, and in many countries people would go riot in the streets, but in america lyndon johnson was sworn in, and it's a smooth transition of power. look at gore verse bush in 2000. went all the way to the supreme court, but there they were breaking bread together, vice president gore and then incoming president bush. it is what -- what we're seeing today the healthy side of our democracy. >> all right. douglas brinkley, thank you. good to see you, as always. >>> i want to turn to another story here. we are going to boston. these are aerial shots here of a train crash in boston. we understand reports that as ma
the real tradition of this is started in 1960 with kennedy meeting nixon in florida, and since then it's pretty much pro forma. what is 50-50 is whether a friendship gets developed out of this kind of lunch. >> this is the kind of thing that we take for granted in the united states. you really have to think about it, when there is no peaceful transition. >> well, you know, i recently wrote about the kennedy assassination, and it's amazing. here our president was killed in dallas in...
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kennedy and richard nixon, bury the hatchet. show we have peaceful transitions in this country. i yesterday, asked, jay carney respectfully to open up the meeting to cameras on behalf of the white house correspondents association. respectfully declined. he believe both men had been in front of the public eye, in front of tv cameras over past year. they wanted to take care of business in private, if you will. one thing might be on the agenda, the fact that at his news conference a couple weeks back the president said something he respected about mitt romney how he turned around the olympic games. he thought some of that could be used to help make government more efficient. there is a big debate going on about government spending, wasteful spending. maybe he will enlist mitt romney for a initiative along those lines. jon: talk about government spending, we've got that fiscal cliff coming up january 1. might this conversation somehow be used to make some progress on that? >> reporter: it could because of the fact the other person on mitt romney's schedule today is congressman paul
kennedy and richard nixon, bury the hatchet. show we have peaceful transitions in this country. i yesterday, asked, jay carney respectfully to open up the meeting to cameras on behalf of the white house correspondents association. respectfully declined. he believe both men had been in front of the public eye, in front of tv cameras over past year. they wanted to take care of business in private, if you will. one thing might be on the agenda, the fact that at his news conference a couple weeks...
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and then it took till 1971 for a bill to be passed and then signed by president nixon. and that bill said the following. it was very short. it was 31 years later. it was called the nondetention act of 1971. and it repealed a 1950 statute that explicitly allowed detention of united states citizens, sort of similar to what we're going through today. and that 1971 bill said -- and i quote -- "no citizen shall be imprisoned or otherwise detained by the united states except pursuant to an act of congress." and this set up a long debate, because various cases came up as far as the supreme court. one of them, in 2004, was hamdi vs. rumsfeld. and it had one position. and then a second case, padilla v. rumsfeld in the second court of appeals took a different position. so what happened was that it, the detention act became sufficiently blurred as to exactly what was meant. and one of these courts held that the aumf was not an act of congress which dealt with this issue, so it did not qualify. what we are trying to do in this simple amendment is what's called a clear statement, to
and then it took till 1971 for a bill to be passed and then signed by president nixon. and that bill said the following. it was very short. it was 31 years later. it was called the nondetention act of 1971. and it repealed a 1950 statute that explicitly allowed detention of united states citizens, sort of similar to what we're going through today. and that 1971 bill said -- and i quote -- "no citizen shall be imprisoned or otherwise detained by the united states except pursuant to an act...
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talking about how -- you've talked before about how 1972 -- you were 12 or 13, you worked for president nixon. you had index cards. what you do you think the republican party should learn from what the obama campaign did with technology on november 6? >> i wrote index cards of the addresses of the campaign contributors. this guy sent in $5. we were not high-tech. you're talking about having guests, you should have one of the key republicans from the campaign come in and begin the autopsy thing. i was talking with ryan to use the autopsy analogy. you have to take all the organs out and one of them is the get out the vote effort. people are focused on that. it may well be, this is it, that's what was the big deal. maybe it's one of 10 things. >> what else is on your list? >> i think we need somebody who has a track record and -- >> talk about the mechanics of the campaign. what else? >> you got to decide to focus on the issues and you have to have your candidates practice, practice, practice. we need to decide -- we have a campaign this last time with 10 people up on stage. several of them were
talking about how -- you've talked before about how 1972 -- you were 12 or 13, you worked for president nixon. you had index cards. what you do you think the republican party should learn from what the obama campaign did with technology on november 6? >> i wrote index cards of the addresses of the campaign contributors. this guy sent in $5. we were not high-tech. you're talking about having guests, you should have one of the key republicans from the campaign come in and begin the autopsy...